BAST: Yeah, Paulette says she gives these Scientology lawyers a fit. They can't keep up with her, because she knows how to lie so well. They can't catch her.
McLEAN: I heard her lie in that deposition.
BAST: What? You were at that deposition?
BAST: Oh. You went with her?
BAST: Oh! So, she, how did so do? Did she lie effectively?
BAST: Oh. They caught her in a lie?
McLEAN: No. But she doesn't do it very well.
BAST: Oh, I see.
McLEAN: One thing that she told me she was going to do, which I wrote her a letter at the time, I have a copy of the letter, and she did it under that deposition. And I wanted to leave the room I was so upset.
BAST: You know she was lying. But they didn't know she was lying, though.
McLEAN: She was lying about something she had absolutely nothing to do with.
BAST: Like what, what was it she was lying about?
McLEAN: Two men, Michael Churnepski and Alan Coulson. I don't know if you've heard of them or not.
McLEAN: They were Canadians that were caught breaking and entering or attempting to break and enter my lawyer's office, Wier and Foulds, in Toronto. They were caught in an elevator shaft and behind a locked door with lock-picking tools. And they had mentioned Scientology. And then they shut up. It turned out, I know both of them. I had audited one of them. I knew they were there on a mission. They were caught. They were convicted, but as first-time offenders. . . .
BAST: What did Paulette have to do with them?
McLEAN: Well, that's what I'm getting to now. She, when she was sued in Toronto, asked me for a lawyer. I referred her to my lawyer, Wier and Foulds.
McLEAN: Wier and Foulds. Prestigious law firm, but very conservative. I'm no longer with them. She joined that firm on the 29th, she had her first conversation with my lawyer on the 29th of April. This business occurred on the 17th of April. The night of the 16th of April. She is claiming that this law firm was her law firm at the same time and that they were trying to break in for her.
BAST: She wan't even a client of theirs?
McLEAN: She wasn't even a client of theirs at that time, and I said, "Paulette, I will never back you on that. This is my lawyer's firm, they were attempting to get my documents. You have nothing of your own, you are nothing.
BAST: Why was she trying to claim that they were her lawyers?
McLEAN: Because it's one of the only incidents.