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Milieu Control

Diane stresses the importance of the milieu control factor as defined by Robert J. Lifton and shows how it doesn't apply to Scientologists who are otherwise free to mix up with society at large.


Diane Richardson <referen@bway.net>

17 Apr  97

http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=235547832

Monica Pignotti <Pignotti@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Diane Richardson wrote:

>> Brainwashing is interpreted as requiring both mental *and physical* coercion. That is the objection which is raised most consistently about Dr. Singer's application of Robert Jay Lifton's criteria to the cult experience. Public scientologists[tm] undergo nothing even conceivably similar to imprisonment. Lifton maintains quite clearly in his book that milieu control is necessary before any thought reform tactics have a chance of success.

>Milieu Control does not necessarily mean physical imprisonment and if you think it does you are very much mistaken.

I quote Robert Jay Lifton:

"The most basic feature of the thought reform environment, the psychological current upon which all else depends, is the control of human communication. Through this milieu control the totalist environment seeks to establish domain over not only the indivudal's communication with the outside (all that he sees and hears, reads and writes, experiences, and expresses), but also -- in its penetration of his inner life -- over what we may speak of as his communication with himself."

Anyone would be hard-pressed to describe a public Scientologist's[tm] contact with an org as "milieu control," Monica. Public Scientologists[tm] are not cut off from the outside world -- they continue to work at their own jobs, live in their own communities, and interact daily with whomever they please. To describe this as a "controlled milieu" is absurd. The Amish, for example, are far more successful at "milieu control" than the CoS, yet few if any would consider the Amish a "destructive cult."

Lifton continues:

"It is probably fair to say that the Chinese Communist prison and revolutionary university produce about as thoroughly controlled a group environment as has ever existed. The milieu control exerted over the broader social environment of Communist China, while considerably less intense, is in its own way unrivalled in its combination of extensiveness and depth; it is, in fact, one of the distinguishing features of Chinese Communist practice."

Lifton goes on to discuss the Chinese government's control of its population's access to dissenting information. To claim that the CoS exerts a comparable level of control over public or even staff Scientologists[tm] is a blatant misrepresentation of facts.

You know that, Monica. Why is this so important to you that you are willing to disregard facts which any reader of alt.religion. scientology has known for quite some time?

>Lifton himself wrote an essay of his 8 criteria as applied more specifically to cults in his essay in "The Future of Immoraltality" which was reprinted in its entirety at the back of Steve Hassan's book *Combatting Cult Mind Control*. There are numerous examples of "milieu control" in cults. Lifton has spoken at numerous CAN conferences. He obviously disagrees with you that his 8 criteria do not apply to cults.

Was Lifton referring to specific cults? Does he specifically discuss "milieu control" of public Scientologists[tm]? Are you applying Lifton's words to a group which he would *never* apply them to?

I'm amazed at your readiness to abandon rational thought in an effort to buttress an obviously unsupportable contention. If this is at all representative of the honesty you display in your dealings with clients, I'm aghast that you are permitted to practice.

Diane Richardson
referen@bway.net

 


Defense Introduction - Announcement - William's Sins Bainbridge - Timothy Miller - Hunts Attack - Robert Jay Lifton - Pattern of Defense - Loaded Language - Margaret Singer - DSM -1V - Clark's Defense -Kaplan and Saddock - Sociologist Vs Psychologist - Milieu Control - Hugglung's Reaction  Salibo on Singer - APA Statement - The Rabbits Foot



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