Some
newbies are bright enough to very quickly see through ARS' hype
and biases.
Richard
<blueapple1@yahoo.com>
13
Nov 98
Because
of Scientology's presence in the news recently, I was
curious enough to visit this NG when I learned of it.
I have heard
outrageous rhetoric from both "sides," and I
sincerely hope that the most fanatical anti-CoS
zealots stop and think for a moment. Is this fight
what makes you groove? Have you yourselves become
dependent on CoS, but in a different way? In the end,
if you truly believe that personal freedom is
something worth fighting for, then you have to respect
the right of the other to believe what he will. Much
of the strong language used in this NG isn't directed
towards the need for justice to be served, but against
beliefs held by the other side.
In your haste to
stamp out what appears as a threat to freedom, you may
be trampling on the freedom of someone else. Lots of
pain, here... I hope you can all find a way out of
your individual states of war and emergency.
Richard
Accusation of being a subversive
agent for the CoS (or OSA) is the usual
"answer" of anti's to critical remarks
against ARS. See how it work here
for Richard.
"bailey"
<bailey@koan.com>
9
Jun 99
I
have been lurking around here for about a 18 months
and I have a question. Do you people ever do anything
constructive like inform and educate or do you just
like to see who can bitch the loudest and longest?
See here
for the usual rant of being a
subversive agent for the CoS as a result of this
critical remark against ARS.
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
Speaking as an ex-Scientologist myself,
I have recently found this newsgroup and am amazed by the bitterness
which is found here.
Why are you all
carrying so many grudges?
Surely, there are much bloodier and nastier things to
start a crusade about, the murders and genocide in
East Timor/Iraq for example, or the continuing
starvation of the children in Africa.
But no, here
you all are slagging off Scientology. So, why don't
you all do like I did....go out and get yourselves a
life. You will feel much better for it.
It is the
"dangerousness" of Scientology that most of you seem
to have an issue about. Well, as far as new religions
go, its record is not really all that bad.
Christianity, for example, has its foundations on the
millions of people killed "in the name of Christ",
either through wars or at the hands of
self-serving and sadistic priests. Yet no-one these
days says Christianity is evil. Also, if you think
Scientology is the first religion based on money, then
think again. Take a look in the history books for
Henry 8th and the reformation of the monasteries. Or
the mormons with their 10% of income. The Jewish and
moslem faiths are also based on people handing over
large amounts of cash.
So come on
you guys. Make a move towards a more positive future.
Don't hang on to all those rusty old chains from your
past. It's not worth it. Honest.
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
I
oppose these things also but I have a difficult time
seeing their actions as any worse than other religions
at some point in their evolution. All Judeo/Christian
religions hung a few heretics (at the very least)
along the way to becoming holier than thou. This is
not intended to excuse them but the loudest arguments
seem to be that they are not a 'true religion', former
members complaining that after spending a lot of money
they can't read minds or that someone's favorite actor
is 'one of them'.
Let me ask
this of everyone here - If the scientologists gave up
their illegal activities and in the process became the
largest religion in the world and 'In Hubbard we
Trust' was printed on all US money, and Congress
opened with a COS ceremony, and Hubbardmas as the
largest holiday of the year - would you accept them or
still oppose them? Answer honestly.
Lastly I
came here expecting to hear arguments from a legal
point of view. And what do I see? Religious hypocrisy,
petty insults, names and addresses of COS members
posted, calls for christians to 'rise up' to oppose
them.
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