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Richard <blueapple1@yahoo.com>

13 Nov 98

Because of Scientology's presence in the news recently, I was curious enough to visit this NG when I learned of it.

I have heard outrageous rhetoric from both "sides," and I sincerely hope that the most fanatical anti-CoS zealots stop and think for a moment. Is this fight what makes you groove? Have you yourselves become dependent on CoS, but in a different way? In the end, if you truly believe that personal freedom is something worth fighting for, then you have to respect the right of the other to believe what he will. Much of the strong language used in this NG isn't directed towards the need for justice to be served, but against beliefs held by the other side.

In your haste to stamp out what appears as a threat to freedom, you may be trampling on the freedom of someone else. Lots of pain, here... I hope you can all find a way out of your individual states of war and emergency.

Richard

Accusation of being a subversive agent for the CoS (or OSA) is the usual "answer" of anti's to critical remarks against ARS. See how it work here for Richard.

 

"bailey" <bailey@koan.com>

9 Jun 99

I have been lurking around here for about a 18 months and I have a question. Do you people ever do anything constructive like inform and educate or do you just like to see who can bitch the loudest and longest?

See here for the usual rant of being a subversive agent for the CoS as a result of this critical remark against ARS.

 

Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.

Source: What's wrong with you people?

Stephen Robinson <sterobin @globalnet.co.uk>

13 Nov 98

Message-ID: <73fp44$2e9$1@newnews.global.net.uk>

Speaking as an ex-Scientologist myself, I have recently found this newsgroup and am amazed by the bitterness which is found here.

Why are you all carrying so many grudges? Surely, there are much bloodier and nastier things to start a crusade about, the murders and genocide in East Timor/Iraq for example, or the continuing starvation of the children in Africa.

But no, here you all are slagging off Scientology. So, why don't you all do like I did....go out and get yourselves a life. You will feel much better for it.

It is the "dangerousness" of Scientology that most of you seem to have an issue about. Well, as far as new religions go, its record is not really all that bad. Christianity, for example, has its foundations on the millions of people killed "in the name of Christ", either through wars or at the hands of self-serving and sadistic priests. Yet no-one these days says Christianity is evil. Also, if you think Scientology is the first religion based on money, then think again. Take a look in the history books for Henry 8th and the reformation of the monasteries. Or the mormons with their 10% of income. The Jewish and moslem faiths are also based on people handing over large amounts of cash.

So come on you guys. Make a move towards a more positive future. Don't hang on to all those rusty old chains from your past. It's not worth it. Honest.

 

Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.

Source: What is it?

From: deleted@deleted.com (Deleted)

20 Dec 98

Message-ID: <367c6923.48032657@news.mindspring.com>

Came here to get some info about Scientology, all I could find was hatred. Fine community. What a shame.

 

Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.

Source:  The pot and the kettle / A question to all here from the original poster

eshra <eshra@usa.net>

21 Mar 99

Message-ID: <36F595FB.F018466E@usa.net>

I oppose these things also but I have a difficult time seeing their actions as any worse than other religions at some point in their evolution. All Judeo/Christian religions hung a few heretics (at the very least) along the way to becoming holier than thou. This is not intended to excuse them but the loudest arguments seem to be that they are not a 'true religion', former members complaining that after spending a lot of money they can't read minds or that someone's favorite actor is 'one of them'.

Let me ask this of everyone here - If the scientologists gave up their illegal activities and in the process became the largest religion in the world and 'In Hubbard we Trust' was printed on all US money, and Congress opened with a COS ceremony, and Hubbardmas as the largest holiday of the year - would you accept them or still oppose them? Answer honestly.

Lastly I came here expecting to hear arguments from a legal point of view. And what do I see? Religious hypocrisy, petty insults, names and addresses of COS members posted, calls for christians to 'rise up' to oppose them.

 



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